Comments on: The Bowing Out of the Necktie http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/ Fashion and Lifestyle Advice for Men Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:00:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: La BellaDonna http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/comment-page-1/#comment-130905 La BellaDonna Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:17:30 +0000 http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/#comment-130905 I do know men who still wear suits to work - men who aren't even lawyers or bankers! And these men wear <i>ties</i> with their suits. And their ties are wonderful - rich, heavy silk, modern and elegant. I think men do themselves a disservice when they disdain the wearing of suits - in addition to being appropriate for a person in a position of responsibility and authority, the suit, IMO, is a garment that is far more attractive to the opposite sex than "Dockers" ever will be.* *The Kilt, in its many versions, will give the Suit a run for its money - 17th Century kilt all the way up to and through the Utili-Kilt. The Suit, however, is less likely to make its wearer feel a trifle self-conscious. I do know men who still wear suits to work – men who aren’t even lawyers or bankers! And these men wear ties with their suits. And their ties are wonderful – rich, heavy silk, modern and elegant.

I think men do themselves a disservice when they disdain the wearing of suits – in addition to being appropriate for a person in a position of responsibility and authority, the suit, IMO, is a garment that is far more attractive to the opposite sex than “Dockers” ever will be.*

*The Kilt, in its many versions, will give the Suit a run for its money – 17th Century kilt all the way up to and through the Utili-Kilt. The Suit, however, is less likely to make its wearer feel a trifle self-conscious.

]]> By: Business Casual-ty » Manolo for the Men http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/comment-page-1/#comment-130769 Business Casual-ty » Manolo for the Men Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:03:48 +0000 http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/#comment-130769 [...] with dogs on it, or a militantly elitist one from Yale Law School—recently responded on TV to the supposed demise of the tie.  Apparently he always keeps his high horse tethered nearby: You see this lovely silken thing [...] [...] with dogs on it, or a militantly elitist one from Yale Law School—recently responded on TV to the supposed demise of the tie.  Apparently he always keeps his high horse tethered nearby: You see this lovely silken thing [...]

]]> By: Toby Wollin http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/comment-page-1/#comment-130717 Toby Wollin Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:06:14 +0000 http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/#comment-130717 Izzy - I've got two words for you: Business Casual. That whole movement(which was foited on the business world by Levi Strauss' Dockers Division in the 1990s) has degraded work clothing. I work with men who are of an age where they have never ever worn a suit or sportcoat/pants to work since they started working. They think that business clothing is khaki pants and a knit golf shirt. No wonder the tie is fading...men don't wear shirts and ties or coats and ties any more. Izzy – I’ve got two words for you: Business Casual. That whole movement(which was foited on the business world by Levi Strauss’ Dockers Division in the 1990s) has degraded work clothing. I work with men who are of an age where they have never ever worn a suit or sportcoat/pants to work since they started working. They think that business clothing is khaki pants and a knit golf shirt. No wonder the tie is fading…men don’t wear shirts and ties or coats and ties any more.

]]> By: grrg http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/comment-page-1/#comment-130701 grrg Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:36:37 +0000 http://manolomen.com/2008/06/12/the-bowing-out-of-the-necktie/#comment-130701 I can't do a more elaborate explanation right now, but on the CBC Radio show "As It Happens" on Wednesday the former executive director of the now-defunct Men's Dress Furnishing Association explained that that WSJ story missed the point and contained errors of fact. The association was disbanded only because corporate consolidation on the part of both manufacturers and retailers rendered it unnecessary, and tie sales remain stronger than the article suggests. The piece notes the percentage of men who wear a tie *every day* is at an all time low, but that's not a particularly meaningful number -- my guess would be that the number of men who wear a tie to work *at least half the time* or *at least once a week* is more or less unchanged. And PS: he all-too-bemoaned "decline of formality" has its upside, too.. Anyway, listen here: http://www.cbc.ca/radioshows/AS_IT_HAPPENS/20080611.shtml (It's item #10.) I can’t do a more elaborate explanation right now, but on the CBC Radio show “As It Happens” on Wednesday the former executive director of the now-defunct Men’s Dress Furnishing Association explained that that WSJ story missed the point and contained errors of fact. The association was disbanded only because corporate consolidation on the part of both manufacturers and retailers rendered it unnecessary, and tie sales remain stronger than the article suggests. The piece notes the percentage of men who wear a tie *every day* is at an all time low, but that’s not a particularly meaningful number — my guess would be that the number of men who wear a tie to work *at least half the time* or *at least once a week* is more or less unchanged.

And PS: he all-too-bemoaned “decline of formality” has its upside, too..

Anyway, listen here:

http://www.cbc.ca/radioshows/AS_IT_HAPPENS/20080611.shtml

(It’s item #10.)

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